tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235466434053435852.post3853743148196063988..comments2023-09-19T12:03:00.562+01:00Comments on Jane Purcell: Freelance Mum: Evil Aided by IncompetenceJanehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16329937118727831213noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235466434053435852.post-46480878701643395942008-11-14T21:01:00.000+00:002008-11-14T21:01:00.000+00:00In my dim(?) and distant psych degree days - I *be...In my dim(?) and distant psych degree days - I *believe* the electric shock expt was Milgram. (I'll have to google it now to check!) The Asch one was FAR more simple than that. 3 lines on a piece of paper...which is the longest? If the set-ups said 'A' (when clearly it was 'B') then the subjects said 'A' after a number of set-ups (lied) and said 'A' - just to conform.<BR/><BR/>Scary.<BR/><BR/>I agree... the frustration must surely keep them (social workers)awake at night. Horrible.<BR/><BR/>Your imagery of the Family Scum is very amusing... but probably very real too... alas.Kit Courteneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07211606676705095432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235466434053435852.post-27329361768972564582008-11-14T17:04:00.000+00:002008-11-14T17:04:00.000+00:00I know Dotterel. Someone I know inside the social...I know Dotterel. Someone I know inside the social services (nothing to do with this case) said that colleagues of Dr Sabah Al-Zayyat were cautious in accusing her of incompetence, not wanting to be accused of racism. This is the senior doctor who failed to notice a child with eight broken ribs and a broken spine.Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329937118727831213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235466434053435852.post-35380957095791759802008-11-14T16:55:00.000+00:002008-11-14T16:55:00.000+00:00It beggars belief, really. And I know Social Servi...It beggars belief, really. And I know Social Services always get it in the teeth when things like that happen, but we (as a nation) pay a tidy sum for them to step in to prevent tragedies like this. I'm afraid - as with the police - part of the problem is a ridiculous strain of political correctness which teaches that these bodies have to look outside their 'natural constituency' for 'customers'.Tim Atkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00858684167484655029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235466434053435852.post-17291406078160438982008-11-14T11:48:00.000+00:002008-11-14T11:48:00.000+00:00Do you know Kit, I thought of that creepy conformi...Do you know Kit, I thought of that creepy conformity experiment. The electric shock one wasn't it? Ta for bringing it up. We all imagine we would be the one to stand up as you say and shout: "It's the mother you fucking moron!"<BR/><BR/>Having said that, I could never be a social worker - I couldn't switch off. I'm sure there are thousands of decent, hardworking social workers who feel as sick to their stomach as we do, and want to grab the baby they see brought up in squalor and just run. Instead they have to smile and wave away the fag smoke and gently suggest that maybe the family rottweiler should be wearing a muzzle and when did the little one last eat.<BR/><BR/>I'd go mad.Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329937118727831213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235466434053435852.post-88432037603886644592008-11-14T11:39:00.000+00:002008-11-14T11:39:00.000+00:00I'm with you. I'd like to think that in that situa...I'm with you. I'd like to think that in that situation I would be the one to shout and scream 'It's the fucking mother, you morons!' but the power of conformity is rather shocking. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments)<BR/>Obviously, this is not about little lines on a piece of paper, but who knows how one would react in those circumstances.<BR/><BR/>People - govt depts, social workers, health care workers, teachers etc. - do not sit by and 'let' these things happen. I'm sure they don't get up in the morning and think 'Now whose abuse and torture shall we let happen this morning?' but how many times must this situation occur before lessons are learned? That is what I can't grasp. WHY are these people not able to pick up on things... like a broken back...?<BR/><BR/>There is something so very wrong with a nation that ploughs money into absolutely fucking mental pointless ventures (I'm thinking 2012 but that's just my opinion!) but can't give the 'caring' professions enough funding/ training/ support in order to pick up on something as tragic and AVOIDABLE as this.Kit Courteneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07211606676705095432noreply@blogger.com